tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154359965221795553.post5815372782696120360..comments2024-03-01T14:27:35.794-08:00Comments on Albion Awakening: That Hideous Strength Revisited and RevisedBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154359965221795553.post-30217265039869145712017-08-13T04:21:56.088-07:002017-08-13T04:21:56.088-07:00That's correct, I have no outer affiliation bu...That's correct, I have no outer affiliation but I like to think I have an inner affiliation (as do we all, of course) and I try to stay faithful to that, bearing in mind that it can't really be pinned down or neatly defined. I know that could be an excuse for all sorts of heresies, and there are risks of pride and self-deception but I think these are risks we have to take (whilst always being alert for them) if we are really to progress in the way intended and as you have laid out so well, Bruce.William Wildbloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231219533755925897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154359965221795553.post-5003578158672020982017-08-13T04:08:59.617-07:002017-08-13T04:08:59.617-07:00Yes, I agree. Great answer, thanks.Yes, I agree. Great answer, thanks.John Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13951246561259007162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154359965221795553.post-57989186595887194062017-08-12T23:07:53.444-07:002017-08-12T23:07:53.444-07:00@John - Thank you.
I am supportive, in an abstra...@John - Thank you. <br /><br />I am supportive, in an abstract way, of SSPX and the like - but as you guess, I don't think they are the key to the future - certainly not for me personally. Their growth among Westerners is (so far) from already-Catholics (already-Christians) leaving the liberalising mainstream church. <br /><br />The growth of all growing Christian denominations is the same: some 'serious' Christian churches such as conservative evangelicals, Mormons have been able to grow in the West; but from already-Christians - and increasingly this growth is from non-Western immigrants. <br /><br />The only true growth in th edeveloped world seems to be among the Chinese; who are very rapidly converting to a low church, home church, decentralised, highly-devout and miraculous Protestantism. According to Rodney Stark (whose numbers are usually valid) there are now more active Christians in China than in Europe/ UK. <br /><br />But the Chinese have a different destiny than the West, and than Albion. <br /><br />In Albion we may or may not be church members/ attenders - but we will not be guided by the churches, the churches will not rescue us nor will they point the way. <br /><br />Ultimately (and probably for 200 years), Christianity is now post-institutional. That does not mean church is obsolete, but it is secondary: now and forward - we judge the churches, they don't judge us; ultimate morality/ Goodness is in the individual, not the institution. <br /><br />Thus I am associated with and support a conservative evangelical Anglican church (and I am Mormon in theology); you a conservative Roman Catholic church (and William has no affiliation, as I understand) - but all of us regard ultimate responsibility as something within ourselves, and that we must strive to - in our Christian lives - to be strong autonomous agents, 'fuelled' mainly and vitally from God-within. <br /><br />That's how I see it, anyway. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154359965221795553.post-72305721255874527742017-08-12T22:46:08.528-07:002017-08-12T22:46:08.528-07:00That's a very insightful and imaginative post ...That's a very insightful and imaginative post Bruce. Regarding religious institutions and their recent corruption - in the Catholoc Chuurch there are a number of Traditionalist orders who only say the Latin Mass which have experinced greater levels of growth (in terms of vocations, conversions, etc) than the 'establishment' church. I'm sure other religions and denominations have their equivalent.<br />I wonder what you think about this sort of thing. It's something that I welcome by and large but there's part of me that worries there might be something parodic about it and that such 'revivalism' might represent a return to a phase of Original Participation which, as you say, doesn't perhaps map on to where we are now and today's spiritual realities.John Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13951246561259007162noreply@blogger.com